MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
5/2/2024 4:05am
... this. remember, everything we showed you in the beginning of the trial, and like other things in life, a lot of people feel like what they get first is more important. on the campaign part, trump and clinton clinched their party's nominations in june. campaign politics stretch from ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
5/1/2024 10:05pm
... a lot of people feel like whatever they get first is more important. now, on the campaign part, trump and clinton both clinched their party's nominations in june. campaign politics stretched from june all the through october 16 ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
5/1/2024 9:27pm
... prosecute his enemies. that's one of the things he's been trying to do since the earliest days as president. there was reporting, i think, as early as 2017 or '18 that don mcgahn stopped him from having the doj prosecute jim comey and hillary clinton and others, and ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
5/1/2024 8:11pm
... became a story. instead the focus was on hillary clinton and the controversies around her. it is just an amazing part of the story and i know you'll both take me to law school on the actual explicit testimony around the technical elements of the ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
5/1/2024 8:10pm
... sent the letter to the congressional committee saying that he was reopening the inquiry into hillary clinton's emails. if you go back to 'nightly news' from those days as the stormy daniels' wire transfer was being completed, that could have been the moment that stormy daniels ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
5/1/2024 8:10pm
... hollywood, hillary clinton's campaign was attacked by the russians. correct. and then in the week that follows, the conversation was wikileaks. and then october 28th, the day that the wire transfer went through, that is the day that james comey, the fbi director ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
5/1/2024 8:02pm
... opponent hillary clinton and look at how that showed up in the polls for him. 73% of voters had a negative view of donald trump by mid-march of the election year. 64% of women voters in april of 2016 said they have a quote, strongly unfavorably view of ...
MSNBC: Alex Wagner Tonight
5/1/2024 8:58am
... and it was in part the backlash to that as well as urban crime gave us not not just richard nixon but a sort of unbroken republican rule until bill clinton. and so i would expect -- and we're already seeing the ...
MSNBC: The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle
5/1/2024 6:55am
... i think this interview is a rorschach test that shows where everyone is along the spectrum and it gives everyone an opportunity. hillary clinton shared this, as did the trunk pack campaign. look at this interview and see what it tells you about what donald trump would do as president. it is a ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
5/1/2024 4:21am
... you know. august was about the wall. and september was about the debates with clinton. and then october was, that's not really how most people remember it. they remember trump's loud. they didn't like a certain candidate and the trick for the prosecution in an environment where everyone says is this ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
5/1/2024 4:06am
... donald trump's voice was heard in the trial as they watched these types of video. i have no idea who these women are. these are lies being pushed by the media and the clinton campaign to try and keep their ...
MSNBC: The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle
5/1/2024 3:55am
... today. does trump's team seem to be pushing out the content as well as the biden campaign? i think the interview is a rorschach test and shows where d everyone is along the spectrum and gives everyone an opportunity. hillary clinton shared this as did the trump campaign. look at this interview. ...
MSNBC: Alex Wagner Tonight
5/1/2024 1:58am
... oasis of jimmy carter unbroken republican rule until bill clinton. so i would expect we are seeing the backlash, but i would expect it to be ferocious. the late '70s were a time of ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
4/30/2024 10:22pm
... informed, or index. i would not expect you to disagree with random citizens of this to remember yeah, october, that was this chapter, you know. august was about clinton and ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
4/30/2024 10:06pm
... the media and the clinton campaign to try and keep their grip on our country. they are all false, they are totally invented fiction. everywoman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign. ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/30/2024 8:36pm
... clinton campaign which was followed by the comby, wiener, houma laptop. it was a extraordinary period of time and a jury would have to believe extraordinary things to believe that michael cohen, ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/30/2024 12:16pm
... but i will tell you, a hell of a lot of students i have spoken with, when you go in 2000 there was an accord where bill clinton got together and they were giving 97% of the west bank to the palestinians and the other 3% they were going to make up ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/30/2024 10:15am
... all the students, but i will tell you, i'm saying it about a hell of a lot of students i have spoken with. when you go, 'you know, in 2000, there was an oslo accord where bill clinton had gotten together, and they were giving 97% of the west bank to the palestinians. the other 3% they were going to ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
4/29/2024 10:41pm
... presiding judge's family, which is john rebukes from legal experts but right now we turn to something where, of you from an actual supreme court justice, stephen breyer, who serves when clinton appointed him until 2022 when biden ...
MSNBC: Chris Jansing Reports
4/29/2024 6:52pm
... pantsuits too much. from firsthand experience hearing the misogyny and sexism be directed towards women in positions of power. again, that's where shirley chism, and hillary clinton walked so kamala harris can run and do the work she's doing to ...
MSNBC: Chris Jansing Reports
4/29/2024 6:51pm
... reproductive rights, all the things she can talk about, she's uniquely qualified to do that. now, having said that, i remember my days working for hillary clinton when she was criticized for everything from her laugh to the fact that people, you know, said she wore ...
MSNBC: Jose Diaz-Balart Reports
4/29/2024 3:39pm
... met with a former opponent, florida governor ron desantis yesterday in an effort for the two to discuss fund-raising. joining us now, victoria defrancesco soto, dean of the clinton school of public service at the university of arkansas. she is an msnbc contributor, and lonnie chen, a former policy ...
MSNBC: Jose Diaz-Balart Reports
4/29/2024 3:21pm
... publisher david pecker. with us now to talk more about this, lisa rubin who has been in court every day of this trial, and jeff ja koeb vits, a defense attorney who represented three white house employees during the clinton presidency. lisa, who exactly is gary farro, ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/29/2024 11:34am
... communications aide during hillary clinton's 2008 presidential campaign. she was also hillary for america's director of strategic communications and surrogates in 2016. she most recently worked in the commerce department as director ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/29/2024 11:33am
... and spokesperson. elrod played a key role in president biden's successful white house bid four years ago, where she oversaw the campaign's surrogates program. she previously held positions with the clinton administration and served as a senior ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/29/2024 10:20am
... ted cruz, that his father had helped kill jfk. ben carson destroyed somebody's life by leaving a sponge in their brain. hillary clinton saying back in 2016 she has six months to live, ...
MSNBC: Meet the Press
4/29/2024 8:30am
... delayed to palestine. a future promised in 1948, but has never been realized. senator, i want to ask you about your book, 'walk, ride, paddle.' i have it right here. you say in one section of the book, 2016 when you were then secretary clinton's running mate taught me some painful lessons ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
4/29/2024 3:47am
... that would be one thing but we haven't gotten there yet and you mentioned previously and we prepared for your view that note we have seen a start, we know about nixon and clinton. agnew was right in there. ...
MSNBC: Commitment to Life
4/29/2024 2:37am
... and that's why i'm running for president. i feel your pain. when clinton became president, things started to change. there was more talk in government about the issues. every person living with ...
MSNBC: Prime Weekend
4/28/2024 8:39pm
... they were appointed by bush, by clinton, and by obama, and by himself. 60 to 1 according to his record. also, david carter in california, early on, they said he committed felonies. all of them were figuring out ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
4/27/2024 8:48pm
... we know about nixon and clinton. i mentioned that. he is in the line of the presidency. the fact there was an accountable process is not viewed as a problem or a bug ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe Weekend
4/27/2024 11:51am
... i think 156 people contributed to this book, and it is everybody, from john major and brian laurenti, bob gates and secretary baker wrote the forward to bill clinton and nancy pelosi, to reba mcintyre, ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
4/27/2024 4:47am
... yet. and you mentioned previously. and we prepared for your view, we know about nixon and clinton. agnew was right in there. the fact there was an accountable process. by most people is not viewed as ...
MSNBC: The ReidOut
4/26/2024 11:48pm
... them. that they are, you know, the paper of record. yes, but not all the time. they haven't been treating the president right. they haven't been treating the biden family right. hunter biden, all these stories and we remember what they did with hillary clinton and the emails. ...
MSNBC: The ReidOut
4/26/2024 11:25pm
... he seems like he's violating it every day. i don't know if this thing about not putting hillary clinton in jail does it. do you expect to hear something on the gag order next week? i do. we have a third alleged set of violations. juan merchan, the judge here, has already held a hearing on ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
4/26/2024 10:48pm
... we know about nixon and clinton. agnew was right in there. in the line of the presidency. the fact there was an accountable process -- sure. -- by most people isn't viewed as a problem. ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/26/2024 8:33pm
... trump. it was what was amplified about hillary clinton that you never get back. there's also the if you follow the headlines, the photos, the memes, what we know later is that a lot of these ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial
4/26/2024 7:26am
... of blanket immunity. there's anti-precedent. nixon another taking partisan a robert ray who replaced ken starr striking a deal with bill clinton that otherwise he could be prosecuted. that's bipartisan examples. different party presidents. ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial
4/26/2024 7:21am
... because, if that was a given fact, if he was running with say the 18 point lead in the polls of bill clinton had at a certain point in his reelection campaign, there would be less nervousness. we would know eventually this process will work, and if they send it back to the judge, and ...
MSNBC: The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle
4/26/2024 6:10am
... partisan backgrounds and who might have appointed you, and that kind of thing. similarly, when the court was presented the question during bill clinton's presidency, whether a president should be immune from a civil lawsuit, in his case, sexual harassment filed by paula jones, the court again spoke ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial
4/26/2024 4:26am
... this kind of blanket immunity and there is anti-precedent. nixon and clinton. bipartisan examples there. different party presidents. against all of that, the test ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial
4/26/2024 4:20am
... reelected. [ laughter ] because if that was a given fact, if he was running with, say, the 18-point lead in the polls bill clinton had in his reelection campaign, there would be a lot less nervousness about this. because we would know eventually this process will ...
MSNBC: The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle
4/26/2024 3:10am
... verdict because he did not wanted to be a perception that there were differences depending on partisan backgrounds and who might have appointed you and that kind of thing. similarly, when the court was presented the question during bill clinton's presidency ...
MSNBC: The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell
4/26/2024 2:15am
... that because seal team six won't obey the order to assassinate hillary clinton. and then neil gorsuch was saying, made a very clear point to say, to trumps lawyer, so there's absolutely no doubt that subordinates of the president can be prosecuted for ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial
4/26/2024 0:26am
... clinton on the understanding that otherwise he could be prosecuted. bipartisan examples, different presidents. and against all of that the test is, okay, trump might not benefit as much, but do the rules hold. based on the questioning, and i ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial
4/26/2024 0:21am
... because if that was a given fact, if he was running with the 18 point lead in the polls that bill clinton had at a certain point, there would be a lot less nervousness about this because we would know eventually this process will ...
MSNBC: The ReidOut
4/25/2024 11:25pm
... a bill clinton land deal and dug it into monica lewinsky's closet. all of a sudden he's considered about political prosecutions. it's hypocritical at the maximum. who is going to stop them, though? they act with impunity just like ...
MSNBC: The ReidOut
4/25/2024 11:07pm
... commit crimes. that's why gerald ford pardoned richard nixon. that's why bill clinton agrees to give up his law license with the bar for five years. now they say, well, if you're really mean to donald trump and ...
MSNBC: The Beat With Ari Melber
4/25/2024 10:38pm
... presidency and maybe potentially if he is re-elected again, but i do believe the presidents i worked closely with, presidents clinton, bush 43 and president obama they were never chilled, as the expression was used today, never chilled by the lack ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/25/2024 9:14pm
... trump in some instances, by bush, by clinton and by obama. 60 to 1 in terms of the record. you have a federal judge, david carter in california, early on saying, more likely than not trump committed felonies. ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/25/2024 8:42pm
... that was one of his most effective lines in 2016 he said if you had done what she had done n reference to hillary clinton, you'd be in jail and i think one of the reasons he may not want to run on a set of facts at issue here is because he's behaving the way he accuses ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial Presidential Immunity
4/25/2024 6:49pm
... kavanaugh previously worked for ken starr in that clinton prosecution. and i think as are many folks who have served in republican and democratic administrations, investigations when they get ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial Presidential Immunity
4/25/2024 6:49pm
... things on its head, but also, as you know, with justice kavanaugh, you clerked for him when he was a judge, previously worked for ken starr, one of the more controversial of the special counsels. under bill clinton. what do you think of all that. ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial Presidential Immunity
4/25/2024 6:48pm
... case of the impeachment of bill clinton and ken starr, they're going to be worried about too narrowly drawing the line of official act and it's possible they will draw that broadly enough that even if it goes back down to the district court, it could be very hard to prosecute these particular ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial Presidential Immunity
4/25/2024 6:19pm
... republican mantra against democrats was it's about character. that was, you know, when bill clinton was there running against him, they were like this is about character, and this was, you know, the anti-character tape of all times. i actually think that whether the tape is just read by jeff ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial Presidential Immunity
4/25/2024 4:12pm
... nearly come close to establishing criminal violations. we have lived from watergate through the independent counsel era without these prosecutions having gone off on a runaway train. i think president reagan and bush and clinton, whether ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial Presidential Immunity
4/25/2024 4:09pm
... people who were independent counsels, but president reagan, president bush, president clinton's administration were really hampered in their view, all three, by the independent ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/25/2024 1:48pm
... as president. you can look to richard nixon who took a pardon because he needed it. if he was immune, he wouldn't have taken the pardon. and bill clinton negotiaing as ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/25/2024 1:46pm
... hillary clinton in 2016. reporter: in terms of where the supreme court could come out on this, few legal experts believe they are going to adopt donald trump's argument that the president has absolute immunity. there are some decisions presidents make, for example in ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/25/2024 1:45pm
... blame ted cruz. he's yelling 'fake news' also because donald trump lied along with david pecker. they worked together to lie about ben carson, to lie about hillary clinton. fake news all around. i want to thank him for actually ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/25/2024 1:01pm
... stories in the 'national enquirer'. made up stories, made up the story about ted cruz's father, made up the lies about hillary clinton having six months to live, ted cruz's father, ben ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/24/2024 8:01pm
... fake stories with hillary clinton, ted cruz, marco rubio were written up and published. photos were doctored, like this one, amounting to a phenomenon ...
MSNBC: Ana Cabrera Reports
4/24/2024 2:46pm
... received a pardon. that is why even when there was an investigation into bill clinton, you know, he had an agreement to essentially, you know, ensure that he was not going to be criminally prosecuted. so again, former presidents have ...
MSNBC: Ana Cabrera Reports
4/24/2024 2:19pm
... election. we have a few of the headlines here, ted cruz caught cheating with five secret mistresses. hillary clinton's satanic inner ...
MSNBC: Alex Wagner Tonight
4/24/2024 8:10am
... he starts with $30000 to the doorman for the baby story and mcdougal and to the same point you had bad stories about hillary clinton, bad stories about ted cruz. this was the s vehicle interest donald trump to do his dirty ...
MSNBC: All In With Chris Hayes
4/24/2024 7:32am
... clinton-lewinsky scandal trump shrugged off the question explaining that all the womanizing would make campaigning difficult. click that you ever have a flickering you're taking a shower, walking to work or waking up in the morning when you said donald trump, why ...
MSNBC: Alex Wagner Tonight
4/24/2024 4:12am
... hillary clinton and ted cruz. so this was the machine. what did you make of testimony? just as a witness? i wasn't in the courtroom. ...
MSNBC: The ReidOut
4/23/2024 11:18pm
... his proximity to power. doing favors for his friends, punishing his enemies, putting nasty pictures of hillary clinton on the front of his magazine. he's lost the enquirer. he's now testifying against his longtime buddy. we anyhow how this is getting to ...
MSNBC: The ReidOut
4/23/2024 11:05pm
... of enquirer magazines on the supermarket news stands, covers featuring stories about bill clinton's womanizing and hillary clinton enabling him. making the deal with michael cohen, something he says happened in august 2015 with cohen and then campaign ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/23/2024 8:47pm
... to keep hillary in the headlines, to raise questions about her health and her competence and bill clinton's character and deflecting from questions about donald trump himself. this is what you would now see ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/23/2024 8:47pm
... as a me mention, a define of the news cycle and ginning things up about hillary clinton enabled bill clinton's continual sexual dalliances and his bad behavior, ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/23/2024 8:43pm
... michael cohen about what things they should pick to go after, hillary clinton and he had previous thought about what kind of stories earlier in the cycle might embarrass trump's republican riles, ted cruz and ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/23/2024 8:29pm
... enquirer' and try to sell there stoyeries. what about bill and hillary clinton coming up? i was running hillary clinton as an enabler with bill clinton and it was easy to say i keep ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/23/2024 8:15pm
... to me, which is on the stand saying that we manufactured bad stories about our opponents, whether it is ted cruz, whether it is hillary clinton, we just came up with fake stories, fake news and then with respect to ...
MSNBC: Chris Jansing Reports
4/23/2024 5:04pm
... work with steve bannon about some of these potential stories as it related to hillary clinton. we also have testimony here coming from david pecker in just the last few minutes about the -- about the efforts within ...
MSNBC: Chris Jansing Reports
4/23/2024 5:03pm
... stories about his opponents, incluing from the likes of ted cruz to hillary clinton. we also have david pecker testifying this morning that donald trump was a micromanager, somebody who evaluated the invoices that were provided and ...
MSNBC: Jose Diaz-Balart Reports
4/23/2024 3:34pm
... live from outside the courthouse. and joining us, a trial attorney that represented white house employees during the clinton scandals. vaughn, what has been going on in the courtroom as of right now? reporter: this is the second ...
MSNBC: Jose Diaz-Balart Reports
4/23/2024 3:28pm
... complicated. and further down the road. yes. next, as we track the historic nature of the trial, we are going to talk to an attorney that represented three white house employees during the clinton administration and get his take on what he has seen so ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/23/2024 12:32pm
... enough and people were disaffected with hillary clinton that it worked for him. i don't think this is historical parallel. ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/23/2024 10:37am
... can argue hillary clinton lost, in part, because of the third parties getting 6%, democrats still have ptsd from 2000 in florida with nader. that's why rfk is the one thing that makes the polls confusing. ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/23/2024 10:32am
... this was done. we just obviously didn't know what we didn't know. people rallied behind trump enough, enough people rallied and enough were disinfected with hillary clinton, and it worked ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump
4/23/2024 8:08am
... bill clinton is dying and hillary is dying. and also corrupt. it's one big word. and this was their election-eve bombshell edition. just make sure you hit all the ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump
4/23/2024 7:19am
... from where chris is, you could not hear what they were saying to each other. the only person you could hear was a loudmouth guy who was fairly close to them yelling at them about bill clinton balancing the budget. [ laughter ] that was it. _ ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump
4/23/2024 5:08am
... also bill clinton is dying. and hillary is dying. and also hillary is corrupt. that one is not clear enough. it just says corrupt, one big word. and also says hillary will never be president. ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump
4/23/2024 4:19am
... them about bill clinton balancing the budget. that was it. that's what the people had to say out there in the street today. from it's new york, he might have been doing that since 1992. that guy -- might be his regular ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump
4/23/2024 1:08am
... the debate. also, hillary's nephew is in the klan. trump takes charge. also, bill clinton is dying. and hillary is dying. and also, hillary is corrupt. ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump
4/23/2024 0:19am
... for more, chris says you couldn't hear what they were saying to each other. the only person you could hear was a loudmouth guy who was fairly close to them yelling at them about bill clinton balancing the budget. that was it. that is what the people had to ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/22/2024 10:07pm
... would love to have a catching kill scheme. biting can do it and kill stories about his son, clinton could do it for wolinsky and the like what i found was a real relationship between the hush money part of the case and the motive and what was doing ...
MSNBC: Deadline White House
4/22/2024 9:18pm
... relationship with him. but that wasn't known at the time. and there was a real belief, he had had his -- he'd talked about megyn kelly having blood coming out of her eyes and everywhere, 'access hollywood' tape came out after that, he'd been incredibly misogynistic toward hillary clinton in all the ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump
4/22/2024 7:28pm
... of sexual harassment whom he attacked on the stage at has rally. he tried it hard to muddy the waters. he brought women who accused bill clinton of sexual assault into the room at the second presidential debate in st. louis, shocking everyone. but you could see this very ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump
4/22/2024 7:27pm
... we knew at the time was that this happened in the context of a very close race with a month or so to go until election day and polls starting to show the race moving away from trump after the first debate with hillary clinton, and so you can really see in the way the campaign reacted to it that, you ...
MSNBC: Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump
4/22/2024 2:53pm
... incoming, the access hollywood tape, and donald trump and his campaign's worry in a very close election against hillary clinton that this could have been meaningful. it probably would have been meaningful. my guess is that election is so ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/22/2024 11:33am
... it's everybody from john major, bob gates and secretary baker wrote the foreword, to bill clinton and nancy pelosi, to reba mcentire, to the gardner at ...
MSNBC: Morning Joe
4/22/2024 10:05am
... whether it was from when bill clinton was going into office, he got the briefing when barack obama was going into office, he was saying a few things on the campaign trail that he stopped saying after he had gotten -- forgive my language here -- but in the intel community, they ...
MSNBC: Meet the Press
4/22/2024 8:58am
... hillary clinton saying we cherish the transition of power. it makes you so proud of each one of those candidates. they had lost. they let down their constituents. they were able to make the transfer of power. it's an essential part of our democracy that has to happen next november. as we sit here ...
MSNBC: Meet the Press
4/22/2024 8:42am
... crowding out everything else. mm-hmm. he does student loans. everything else is crowded out. it's the trump story. that's what happened in 2016 to hillary clinton. that could be replicated this year. i think it's really -- the enthusiasm issue and young voter issue is critical. ...
MSNBC: Meet the Press
4/22/2024 8:03am
... incumbent president in their re-election year was bill clinton in 1996. there are still troubling numbers in the poll for biden. he trails trump by 22 points on dealing with inflation and the cost of living. all of it comes amid a major foreign policy development. ...
MSNBC: The Weekend
4/21/2024 12:48pm
... ballots to be counted, we will make sure we do everything we can and our power to make sure it goes smoothly and nobody is suppressed of the right to vote in this country. clinton, i think it is important to note that is my understanding that the biden ...
MSNBC: The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle
4/21/2024 3:23am
... deaths of tens of millions of unborn children. during the clinton administration, you were secretary. project 2025 wants to gut it and rename it the department of life. you know exactly what this ...
MSNBC: The Rachel Maddow Show
4/21/2024 1:54am
... involved in stories that involved marco rubio. ted cruz. ben carson. hillary clinton. i don't quite know where that list ends. but i think we will hear a lot more about that relationship. ...